2Fort Server: Wallhack/Aimbot/No Recoil Player: Exylos STEAM_0:0:17557735

[incrediblehair]

"exylos" STEAM_0:0:17557735

Aimbot
Wallhack
No Recoil

Here's the demo: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SAA7MYAD
Trust me, it won't be too hard to spot!

We need some admins on from 11pm-2am if possible. If not in the game then on Friends. Captain Compost is another waller that has been on. I've not got a demo yet but this could be the same guy! Definitely hacking in this demo though!

[Prosthetics]

I'm usually on, just message me

http://steamcommunity.com/id/prosthetics

I'll take a look at the demo now.


Edit:

After watching the demo, there is not enough footage to convict him of anything. A majority of his shots are short range which pretty much hits 100% anyway. However his shots on the soldier did look curious, however not enough to convict. If you ever see him on, do make sure to record an extended demo observing him, but I will keep an eye out for him.

[ShangoXG]

yea pros is usually on during that time.
Great job for recording and sending it in to us, we will definately keep our eyes on those 2, but unfortunately we can't rly ban, as questionable as some of those shots are it could just be "wow he was phucking lucky" questionable...
but yea, we will keep an eye out for him.

[incrediblehair]

I'm usually on, just message me

http://steamcommunity.com/id/prosthetics

I'll take a look at the demo now.


Edit:

After watching the demo, there is not enough footage to convict him of anything. A majority of his shots are short range which pretty much hits 100% anyway. However his shots on the soldier did look curious, however not enough to convict. If you ever see him on, do make sure to record an extended demo observing him, but I will keep an eye out for him.

Unfortunate. Your views on the demo are completely wrong. He is following players through the wall, he knew right where the sentry was and where the pyro was. His shots, even if they were "short-range" as you say, still should have spread more. It is unfortunate that you do not see it but that does not mean it wasn't there. I do expect something to be done about this.

If I were to see this same individual hacking on the SF 2Fort server I will simply choose to play elsewhere as you completely fail.

[blahdan]

jesus, way to be insulting people. They gave you a reason why the demo was not sufficient and you go saying that they arent doing their jobs. They told you that if you see him again to get a better demo, and they will watch out for him, they dont want to prematurely ban someone and have it turn out he wasnt hacking. No need to get hostile.

[incrediblehair]

jesus, way to be insulting people. They gave you a reason why the demo was not sufficient and you go saying that they arent doing their jobs. They told you that if you see him again to get a better demo, and they will watch out for him, they dont want to prematurely ban someone and have it turn out he wasnt hacking. No need to get hostile.


No, no. There is. It's all in the demo. It's just sad that they fail. This is the last time I try though. Too bad.

[Virigoth]

Obviously hair in a case like this you have to give people the benefit of the doubt. To you it might look like he was hacking because you watched him do it for awhile before you started doing the demo, but from the demo all they say they can see is some coincidence and maybe lucky / good shots. It'd be like someone coming on here with a demo of you playing normal, which could be you on a really hot streak, and saying your hacking and you getting banned instantly. You'd be pretty pissed wouldn't you? That is why they said they will watch for the guy and to keep up the good work and try to get some more demos. They aren't banning him because they don't believe you but they just don't have enough to say for sure he is hacking. Nobody has said he is not, but you have to be 100% certain when you run a server or you can develop a bad name from being banhammer happy just as much as you can get a good name from being a good community server.

[Prosthetics]

Unfortunate. Your views on the demo are completely wrong. He is following players through the wall, he knew right where the sentry was and where the pyro was. His shots, even if they were "short-range" as you say, still should have spread more. It is unfortunate that you do not see it but that does not mean it wasn't there. I do expect something to be done about this.

If I were to see this same individual hacking on the SF 2Fort server I will simply choose to play elsewhere as you completely fail.

Talking like that is no way to get your way. As I said, a 30 second demo is not enough to convict someone of hacking unless its a blatent speed hack or a sniper snapping to people's heads. All I asked was for more proof and I even said I'd watch for the guy.

[incrediblehair]

Talking like that is no way to get your way. As I said, a 30 second demo is not enough to convict someone of hacking unless its a blatent speed hack or a sniper snapping to people's heads. All I asked was for more proof and I even said I'd watch for the guy.

Despite the length, each item is accounted for. Again, just because you don't believe it's enough (and I am truly sorry that you are not apt enough to pick up on the hacking that is blatantly displayed in the demo) does not mean the person was not hacking. There's no way around this, Pros, you fail. I feel dreadfully sorry for the SF community and as I said this inaction is just terrible.

I will not report another hacker and if I do see one, which I will there always is one on the SF servers (most likely due to your inexperience), I will not say anything and just go somewhere else.

[Timmah!]

Despite the length, each item is accounted for. Again, just because you don't believe it's enough (and I am truly sorry that you are not apt enough to pick up on the hacking that is blatantly displayed in the demo) does not mean the person was not hacking. There's no way around this, Pros, you fail. I feel dreadfully sorry for the SF community and as I said this inaction is just terrible.

I will not report another hacker and if I do see one, which I will there always is one on the SF servers (most likely due to your inexperience), I will not say anything and just go somewhere else.

I just watched the demo twice and here's the thing:
- First, thanks for taking the time to record a demo and post it, et al. It is appreciated.
- I agree that it is very suspect as far as wallhacking goes. He seemed to know exactly where the pyro was, as well as his own teammates (notice he was looking down at the floor where his teammates were in the sewers below him).
However,
- I saw no sign of aimbotting, and not enough to go on to say he's no-spread hacking. There's a randomness to the spread of any heavy's bullets and some will go perfectly straight... I did not see the usual signs of no-spread hacks.
- As pros said, one suspect occassion is not enough (after all, pyros tend to hide around that corner). We need to see extended footage for things like wallhacking for it to be conclusive (by extended, I mean ~5 minutes - at least enough to show multiple occassions); anything less than that could just be chance.
- Lastly, as others indicated, please show us a little respect. You're entitled to your opinion, but you're passing it off as fact; we simply disagree that the evidence is conclusive. If we banned everyone that had a stroke of luck or have done anything suspicious; we'd have to ban 90% of ourselves. Fact is, there's an element of chance/luck, and experienced players know to check around corners.

[XrazorX]

(and I am truly sorry that you are not apt enough to pick up on the hacking that is blatantly displayed in the demo)


after 3 admin reviews and all of them having the same opinion, its obvious the ONLY person finding this blatant is you, as mentioned above having certain suspect moments is not enough to perma ban a player, the only person who truly fails around here is you for not understanding this.

acting the way you are right now is the absolute worst way to get anything from anyone, so show some respect instead of trash talking the admin team

[JMaster299]

Dude, any Heavy who has played this game even a little spins his barrel up when turning corners, if you don't you're dead. In the video you can see the Pyro and the Solider run past the SG as the Heavy is shooting at it so they know he is back there and they Heavy knows they are waiting for him to stick his head out again. I come around that wall again and see the SG is down the first thing I am going to do is check that corner. Looking down towards the sewer for his buddies can seem supicious but in Spec we can't hear what they are saying on the Mic and he could know they are coming up behind him because they told him they were. As far as the No Spread, as everyone else has said, close range shots and he never fires his minigun long enough to really tell. Scharnhost is a MUCH better Heavy then this guy and it's been proven several times that Scharn is just a good Heavy and a good Heavy can piss the other team off.

[incrediblehair]

The amount of Fail stemming from all of your posts is amazing. Like I said, I won't try again. You're all obviously not good enough to take this seriously.

I feel so, so sorry for each of you. :(

[godslayer]

Despite the length, each item is accounted for. Again, just because you don't believe it's enough (and I am truly sorry that you are not apt enough to pick up on the hacking that is blatantly displayed in the demo) does not mean the person was not hacking. There's no way around this, Pros, you fail. I feel dreadfully sorry for the SF community and as I said this inaction is just terrible.

I will not report another hacker and if I do see one, which I will there always is one on the SF servers (most likely due to your inexperience), I will not say anything and just go somewhere else.

Why dont you just leave then.....honestly, the SF servers are among the cleanest I've seen with a lot of very skilled players hanging around. My guess is you were just smashed by someone that knows how to play and you decided to come here to whine about it.

[eclyps]

thread has obviously taken a turn for the worst.

Hair, we do not ban without undisputed proof. Unfortunately, the demo you submitted leaves us still wondering if he is hacking or not. Therefore we can not ban him at this time. If you get more evidence against him, feel free to post it and we can take action at that time. Until then, he's going to remain unbanned.

Thanks.