Nvidia GeForce 9800GX2 Pictures

[BADog]

http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/05/exclusive_nvidia_geforce_9800gx2/

http://images.tomshardware.com/2008/01/05/geforce_sli.jpg

We know that the 9800GX2 has 2 printed circuit boards (PCBs), as did the 7950GX2 in its time, two graphics processing units (GPUs) using 65 nm nodes (most likely G92s with 128 stream processors), 1 GB of memory (512 MB for each GPU) and two DVI outputs.

We don't know yet if the GeForce 9800 GX2, which is supposed to be 30 % faster than the 8800 Ultra, will support Quad SLI configurations.

http://images.tomshardware.com/2008/01/05/geforce_9800gx2_front.jpg
http://images.tomshardware.com/2008/01/05/geforce_9800gx2_connectors.jpg

[Red]

Damn that thing is sexy.

[Tippo]

Thing is a beast. I bet it weighs 15 lbs.

[Vit^pr0n]

It's going to cost 450$ apparently. Don't quote me on that :D

I'd still rather go for ATI's offering though, since they're releasing theirs on the 28th I believe :D

[Enlightened Viet]

well this should make 8800s prices go lower hopefully by a lot.

[eclyps]

that thing is ugly as fuck, imo

[sloppy]

that thing is ugly as fuck, imo

Your ugly as fuck imo:p:p:eek::rolleyes::):D

[BADog]

that thing is ugly as fuck, imo

So, it does not match the design pattern and color schema for your machine? What shade of lipstick did you want on it? :p

[Fuu]

Hot pink would be nice :P
Hope it's only $450... All new launches these days are around $600... So not holding my breath... But it would drop some 8800 Ultra/GTX etc prices down, so I'm all for it...

[leoftw]

the best nvidia could do was paste two 8800's together lol .

[Vit^pr0n]

Pretty lazy imo. Atleast ATI is doing some innovation and putting a REAL dual-gpu solution on one PCB. Amd also innovates and makes true quads. I think they aim for innovation really, which is why I support them.

ATI's next gen ( R700 and above ) cards will all be dual-core type GPU's, so this is a start of what we'll be seeing in the future from them.

*Crosses fingers the drivers are good*

[Hydra]

ATI is crap cuz they are owned by AMD which is also crap......bad idea to make a big purchase while your in a price war with a larger company..but maybe i think that cuz i only buy Intel

[BADog]

I disagree and partially agree.

I don't think the AMD architecture is bad at all.

I don't think the ATI line of cards are bad...I own quite a few of them.

I do think that AMD stretched its resources with the ATI purchase and subsequently put itself in dire straights.

BTW...blanketing calling things "CARP" will turn you into a troll.

[Vit^pr0n]

Sorry, but AMD and ATI are FAR from crap. Just because Intel and Nvidia are leading in terms of sales, doesn't mean the tables weren't on AMD/ATI's side before. Need I remind you that ATI's offering WHOMPED nvidia 2 generations in a row? X800/X850/X850XT > 6800gt/Ultra, x1900pro/x1950pro/x1900xt/x1950xt > 7900gtx

Looking at this card and ATI's version of a dual-gpu setup, guess which is most likely going to be better in terms of design? ATI. Why? Because unlike Nvidia ( Lazy ass people ), they aren't sticking 2 PCB's together and call it a day. They're actually putting 2 chips on one PCB, with a little crossfire hardware chip built in which hopefully means you wont need crossfire to run the card )

AMD bought ATI because they thought ahead. Right now it might seem like it was a bad mistake, but in the future it will be worth it for both companies.

You see, the difference between AMD/ATI and Intel/Nvidia is that AMD/ATI innovates. Amd made true quads, which might not seem great vs intel's offering, but atleast they tried something new. AMD's chipset also supports 4 GPU's, and they've made a NICE program that lets you overclock without going in the bios.

Please, before you call AMD/ATI crap, retarded, what other stupid name, do some research.

[Hydra]

no need for me to do any more research then i do, im talking from personal experience...AMD had some good chips, and owned Intel big time, but now they will slip further and further back in terms of performance. Also, take a look at what ATI has to offer now, compared to Nvidia.... ill admit im extremely biased to Intel, but i dont like AMD. One thing, i also loved 3dfx, and you see how that went :( I unfortunatly dont have the money anymore to be able to buy video cards like candy, but i like what Nvidia has to offer over what ATI has.

The main thing i dont like about AMD buying ATI was that it was horrible timing for them, i know what their trying to do, but it seems as of now that it was a very bad idea. I do hope they can work some more magic, because it was only cuz of AMD that Intel got off their asses and started making some better products.

and no trolling was intended

[BADog]

Very good...you are intelligent!

I agree, the timing of the ATI purchase took some need momentum away from ATI and AMD. I have been in love with ATI graphics boards up until my last 1950 and the support dropped out. That was because of the changes.

The capitialization will be there...but just like attacking on 2fort versus turtling, AMD got knocked back on their heels. What is their response? One of the purest and functional multi-processor architectures. But it takes resources to pull that off. The vision is there...I just they hope they have enough resources for the execution as well.

[leoftw]

I will never ever call AMD/ATI crap . I owned a true Quad setup from AMD (2 Dual Core AMD Processors on a TYAN board) and it ran perfect . AMD has always been good to me , no need to bash them.

[Aggressive Taco]

"True" Quad core? That is ridiculous. In the real world you don't get paid for being "different", and trying something different gets you NOWHERE. I'm sorry, but AMD processors are crap compared to Conroe atm...Conroe is tons more innovative than anything I've seen come from AMD so far (ooh wow, 4x4....and phenom..."True" quad core my ass). And for graphics, once again, it doesn't matter if you've owned for the past 3 generations, what matters is what you are doing THIS generation. Currently, the way to go is Nvidia + Intel IMHO.

-Taco

[BADog]

without fueling the favorites rant and rave...

I am running Intel + Nivida because of the implied performance and support for Vista64 at the time of the purchase. It does not mean I would not go with AMD+ATI in the future. It just means that the perceived value was not there for me. The long and short of it is that perception will weigh in heavily in the minds of many potential purchasers. He who manages the perception and hype is going to get market share.

Those of us who have the engineering and technical background will argue the minutia of it. Facts are facts. We had a leader (or the potential to become on) and it changed. Now we have a new leader in sales + perception....and cheaper sooner.

You can see from this thread that we are passionate about our chosen tools and technology. I think that is what will keep pushing the technology forward. Without competition, we all lose in a single manufacturer dominated market.

So root for the opposition because it will make your passionate-favorite better.

[Tippo]

without fueling the favorites rant and rave...

I am running Intel + Nivida because of the implied performance and support for Vista64 at the time of the purchase. It does not mean I would not go with AMD+ATI in the future. It just means that the perceived value was not there for me. The long and short of it is that perception will weigh in heavily in the minds of many potential purchasers. He who manages the perception and hype is going to get market share.

Those of us who have the engineering and technical background will argue the minutia of it. Facts are facts. We had a leader (or the potential to become on) and it changed. Now we have a new leader in sales + perception....and cheaper sooner.

You can see from this thread that we are passionate about our chosen tools and technology. I think that is what will keep pushing the technology forward. Without competition, we all lose in a single manufacturer dominated market.

So root for the opposition because it will make your passionate-favorite better.

I'm an OEM. I use AMD and Intel for mass production. They both have their ups and downs. I'll admit I'm biased towards AMD, specifically because of reliability and prices. The ratio of AMD to Intel is 25:1. Yes, I use AMD for specific reasons.

I've built well over 10,000 machines and by fact AMD has less issues than Intel.

I work for Datahal if you wanted to know and I happen to be lead manufacturer.

GTFO if you have no background other than dabbling.

[BADog]

Redirecting Tippo's reply to Aggresive Taco. I think it makes more sense pointed to his message rather than mine. :D

Tippo,

I was a builder from 1997 - 2000 and was buying CPU's in large quantities back then. How many do you buy at a time?

[Tippo]

Redirecting Tippo's reply to Aggresive Taco. I think it makes more sense pointed to his message rather than mine. :D

Tippo,

I was a builder from 1997 - 2000 and was buying CPU's in large quantities back then. How many do you buy at a time?

A shit-ton.

We have hardware contracts to many businesses.

On top of that we build personal PCs.

Edit: And yes I was basically directing that towards everybody who thinks they know what's better. Because they both have their ups and downs.

[Hydra]

i never have and never will like AMD and ill defend Intel 'till death. Mostly because all i ever used to hear was how badass AMD was and how intel was shit. And it doesnt make a difference how many you build, that doesnt make you an expert by any means. Yes, you can speak about reliability but other then that.......yea i like to argue....

[Tippo]

i never have and never will like AMD and ill defend Intel 'till death. Mostly because all i ever used to hear was how badass AMD was and how intel was shit. And it doesnt make a difference how many you build, that doesnt make you an expert by any means. Yes, you can speak about reliability but other then that.......yea i like to argue....

Wat? Wow you're so biased you can't even read.

[Hydra]

well ive said before im biased......i was also refering to GTFO if you dont do more then dabbling, or whatever it was exactly

[Tippo]

well ive said before im biased......i was also refering to GTFO if you dont do more then dabbling, or whatever it was exactly

So, do you have any background, or do you just like to talk about Intel?

By the way, being LEAD MANUFACTURER I would like to consider myself very experienced. I do build machines but now I spent the majority of my time testing, reading and working with what the best parts are instead of being ignorant and using whatever I think works best. By testing proof AMD has outperformed Intel in all the fields making it a number one priority to use AMD over Intel (that doesn't mean speed testing either, I mean ALL fields). The only thing we use Intel for now is our Supermicro dual quad core X7DA8-0 boards (which have a tendency to die too often) for our Scope 3u. Unfortunately you never know how anything performs until you test it and actually work with it. (I HATE when we have a PC over in the UK and I get a call at 3am bitching about something that died.)

I don't share extreme distaste with either Intel nor AMD. Again, I know they both have their flaws and they both have their highlights.

Also since you've probably never owned an AMD (since you hate them so much) you probably don't know how they perform.

For personal PCs things are totally different. But in my field of mass production, with my experience, I know what works and I stick to it. Of course until it goes out of date in 3 months, which is why I still have the fantastic job of doing what I do best.


Woo I can write a book on this!

[Hydra]

I have friends who love AMD to death, and we like to spend time arguing about which is better. Conroe has been my ultimate favorite since its such a better chip. I see your point though, its just my love of arguing again.....and im talking personal computers, not some insane server stuff

[Phlake]

But will it support direct x 10.1?

[Dr. Acula]

By the way, being LEAD MANUFACTURER I would like to consider myself very experienced.

While I didn't read the rest of your nonsense. I consider you very insecure.